6 comments on “Nudity, Modesty and Culture – Part 1 – Defining Modest

  1. Pingback: Nudity, Modesty and Culture – Part 1 – Defining Modest | Remmy's Blog

  2. Hey, Ed.

    Thanks for the sensible “this isn’t about clothing or nakedness” take on 1 Tim. 2:9.

    I think that there’s also a significant mistranslation in play in this passage… one that has fed the false “modesty” culture promoted in the church today.

    For a full exposition of the mistranslation and what the translation probably should be, see this article:

    Matthew Neal

  3. The 1 Peter quote, “Your adornment must not be merely external–” has an extra word added. “Merely” is not in the Greek or in many translations, such as KJV, ASV, RSV, NRSV. Your adornment must not be … putting on garments. Being very literal might make one a nudist.

  4. I get a strong sense that 1 Timothy 2:9-10 dovetails in thematically with James 2:1-7. If believers were more “modest” in how they present themselves, the problems in James 2 would be significantly lessened. Christians are NOT to be about “conspicuous-consumption”.

    2 My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism. 2 Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in filthy old clothes also comes in. 3 If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” 4 have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

    5 Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? 6 But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? 7 Are they not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of him to whom you belong? (James 2:1-7)

    God bless!


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